Gluetools and RED

[mseymour7]

For many of you in post - you may find Gluetools is a pretty invaluable part of the RED workflow-
Lets discuss that here ...

Mike

:-)

[rohit]

is gluetools available only for MAC OS ?

[mseymour7]

from the gluetools web site:

QuickTime Components have been created for MacOSX 10.3.9 and 10.4.8 and 10.5 Developer Preview. While they may run under MacOSX 10.2 and earlier, there will be no official support for these OSs.

Mike

[alatteri]

Tether will also be an important part of the RED workflow with Autodesk systems. It will allow you to transfer the QT files that RED Code creates directly into StoneFS without any transcoding or intermediate steps.

[mseymour7]

Tether will also be an important part of the RED workflow with Autodesk systems. It will allow you to transfer the QT files that RED Code creates directly into StoneFS without any transcoding or intermediate steps.

Sorry I dont know how that would work
The RED code quicktimes are qt wrappers of the r3d files - I know Teather says it will copy any quicktime codec - but it doesn't yet handle native r3d files does it ? If so how is it accessing the wavelet technology - I am only aware of Red Alert, RedCine Scratch and FCP?

Can you explain please?

Mike

[johnmont]

As a side bar and not to hijack the thread (cause Mike knows this), but it's not just RED camera that they are useful for --- consider any 10-bit workflow in FCP or OSX where you need to get image sequences out.

imho, they're really the best way to get 10-bit 4:4:4 images out of QuickTime and not have to worry about the crazy QuickTime world. If you're working with Viper or Genesis....I'd personally consider them a must have.

[alatteri]

Tether can use any default or 3rd party codec. Such that QT does not natively read DPX files, but with Glue Tools it can, which means tether can then transfer any DPX movie/sequence into Stone. Same with Window Media, with Flip Factory tether can directly transfer .WMV files. So, if RED did a proper job, tether could tranfer your RED QT wrapped files.

The litmus test is if Quicktime Player can view those files, then tether can transfer it. It is possible that RED did not fully implement QT, something you would have to test. Drop me a mail if you need an extended license for tether.

Let's meet at IBC to discuss.

Sorry I dont know how that would work
The RED code quicktimes are qt wrappers of the r3d files - I know Teather says it will copy any quicktime codec - but it doesn't yet handle native r3d files does it ? If so how is it accessing the wavelet technology - I am only aware of Red Alert, RedCine Scratch and FCP?

Can you explain please?

Mike

[mseymour7]

Tether can use any default or 3rd party codec. Such that QT does not natively read DPX files, but with Glue Tools it can, which means tether can then transfer any DPX movie/sequence into Stone. Same with Window Media, with Flip Factory tether can directly transfer .WMV files. So, if RED did a proper job, tether could tranfer your RED QT wrapped files.

The litmus test is if Quicktime Player can view those files, then tether can transfer it. It is possible that RED did not fully implement QT, something you would have to test. Drop me a mail if you need an extended license for tether.

Let's meet at IBC to discuss.

Red Alert very quickly (near instantly) makes warpper versions of r3d files which most certainly play in a quicktime player. We now do this all the time. It access the wavelet technology to do this at multiple resolutions too. I think you'll be pleased with RED's qt implementation - but still more work is being done.

So your suggesting a combination of (dream team) of RED -> flame via a Glue tools DPX path would allow tether to transfer dpx - to most anything?

Mike

[alatteri]

I am not sure if Glue Tools is necessary. If the wrapped QTs are in DPX format and RED has not provided a proper codec, then Glue may be required. But it sounds like RED is in a proprietary Wavelet format which they have provided a codec for. In that case just tether & RedCodec alone would be able to send Red footage into Autodesk Stone/Standard FS.

Red Alert very quickly (near instantly) makes warpper versions of r3d files which most certainly play in a quicktime player. We now do this all the time. It access the wavelet technology to do this at multiple resolutions too. I think you'll be pleased with RED's qt implementation - but still more work is being done.

So your suggesting a combination of (dream team) of RED -> flame via a Glue tools DPX path would allow tether to transfer dpx - to most anything?

Mike

[alatteri]

Just got back from IBC. Spent some time talking with Marc-Andre and Graham from RED about workflows. Since RED has integrated their component at the Quicktime system level, tether is able to directly send the QT reference files from RED Alert into StoneFS.