4 point track from Mokey

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  • #202859
    arythmic
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    When I bring in a stabilizer setup into the flame from mokey it scales my plate that I am tracking to the points I made in mokey (seems pretty obvious)

    What I dont know how to do is , prevent flame from corner pinning the image to the points and just have the image track without scaling using the stabilizer information

    thanks

    #217866
    shannones riders
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    Use only 2 point of the 4 with the normal tracker. (you can load the points separately in the normal tracker) This is the simplest way.

    Or you can use the Edit offsets option, I’m not in front of the machine, but see this one in the manual at 4 point tracking.

    #217863
    sleepwalker
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    Unfortunately I need to use 4 points (tried in 2 point and it didnt track as well)

    So with that said I will take a look in the manual and try to see what i can find … Someone had mentioned that I need to translate the offsets, alas I am not familiar with now to do this

    thanks

    #217862
    Matt
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    hi..

    here is nice video tutorial for smoke but its the same for FFI

    http://area.autodesk.com/index.php/tutorials/tutorial_index/importing_monet_tracking_data_into_smoke_2009/

    you have login…

    there was a problem for me in the tutorial and that was i had to import the tracks separately, not like in the video…

    hope this helps

    #217864
    sleepwalker
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    Unfortunately that video doesn’t touch on translating the offsets, which is what i need to figure out how to do … Essentially I need to figure out how to get my front back to its original size

    #217861
    Romeo Reidl
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    Look dude, if you’re using a 4-point track, your insert is going to get corner-pinned. That’s what a 4-point track does.

    If you just want a single point track without any scaling or rotation of your image, you want to track the axis instead of the bilinear’s corner points, and then load your mocha-generated .stabilizer file in there. Flame will use Tracker1’s data, so you may have to get creative with copying and pasting in the channel editor to do what you want.

    Another trick that *may* do what you want:
    1. Add a bilinear for your insert. Select its 4 corner points and go into the stabilizer. Load your mocha file.
    2. Exit the stabilizer, switch from “Track” to “Offsets” in the surface menu, go into the stabilizer, then load your mocha setup again.
    3. Go to the animation editor, scrub to the frame where you want your insert to be lined up to the corners of the frame, select “scene,” then hit “Set Key” followed by “Keep.” You want to wind up with just one frame worth of keyframes on every parameter here.
    4. Exit the stabilizer. Your insert should now have its corners at the corners of the frame. Is this what you wanted?

    If you just want to edit the offsets once, you need to click “Edit Offsets” in the surface menu, then look at the layer’s front and you should be able to move them around. Depending on which version of hardware and software you’re on, you may have to toggle between front and result a lot to get them where you want. Or scrub them around in the channel editor.

    #217865
    sleepwalker
    Participant

    Tried the method with no avail .. thanks

    I know there is a trick to get this to work so that the image still uses the 4 points but doesn’t corner pin …

    #217867
    Piotr Kolus
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    Out of curiosity what is it you are trying to track to what? I’m wondering why you can’t or don’t want to use a corner pin …?

    If you manage to get the individual tracks into the stabilizer, you could use expressions to add the channels and average them (by dividing them with 4) onto a fifth tracker. Leave only the fifth one active, save the setup, and load it inside the tracker in action. Should work.

    For scaling/rotation you would have to use another track on a dummy axis and pick two trackers that work best. Then link from your dummy axis to your actual image axis. Use several combinations on different dummy axes and again combine the results with an expressions if you like.

    If it’s just XY shift you’re interested in, doesn’t Mokey have the option to export a center tracking point as well?

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