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April 17, 2004 at 1:48 pm #199441mangoParticipant
I have converted from flame 7.1 (I know it’s old)to cobustion first on to a mac (dual G5 2giga) platform using a black magic capturing card on the pci-x port but it was very slow on updating on to the monitor and rendering so I build a pc (p4 2.8 g ht) with the same capturing card. It’s simply a small flame it’s updating faster than the flame 7.1 I was using. So if your thinking about what platform you whant (I’m sorry to say I’m a mac person) buy a pc with a sdi card from black magic design. (they start at 295$). and they 😀 😆 😈
Questions:
have anybody tried combustion on a dual Xeon and what are the speeds.?sorry to desturb you.
thomas.April 17, 2004 at 2:05 pm #207961AnonymousInactiveCombustion is a real crap on the mac. You know discreet has never been a good friend with apple.
It’s really much better to buy Shake. Maybe apple will lower it’s price for the nab.April 19, 2004 at 4:01 am #207960AnonymousInactiveI am running 3ds max 6 and combustion 3 on a dual 3.06Ghz Xeon with 4Gb of RAM, and the system kicks serious butt. I push around a ton of RPF’s for post effects, and also a fair bit of all CGI HD content destined for Windows Media 9 display, and a wee bit of DV. BTW, if you haven’t already, go to at least GigE for your network.
-A.
September 10, 2004 at 9:29 pm #207957deepbiteParticipantcan you tell us the configuration of your homebuilt PC? Because it sounds pretty impressive the way you labled it as a “small flame” Is it a dual proc., and what kind of RAID set up you have there.
Thanks in advance for your info.
September 12, 2004 at 6:05 pm #207959AnonymousInactiveMyabe this will help, although I don’t have a claim to Flame:
System drive: 36Gb 10K Western Digital Raptor SATA
RAID 0 for local editing: 2x 74Gb 10K Western Digital Raptor SATA
Media Export drive: 36Gb 10K Western Digital Raptor SATAAnd my server has:
8x Seagate 7200rpm 160Gb SATA drives, in a RAID 5 config, running on a Promise controller in a 64 bit PCI slot.
It only really slows down when I try to push around high-def.
Personally, I can’t stand the thought of paying for a logo, when I can build a machine myself for a lot less.-A.
September 14, 2004 at 7:52 pm #207966AnonymousInactiveHi.
Just as SCRktkt says, dual xeon + a little RAM is really a good option when using Combustion.
Okay, it does not match a Flame at all (HD, Action, particles), but if realtime in Hd is’nt the issue, and you can afford a 3d package, then you have a complete set here !
3ds has a weak core, but it works SO well with comb it’s really worth it… If money’s the issue, did I not hear XSI ‘lite’ was going under 500 euros ?…
The price competition in pc components is so rough that even hi quality pro material is getting really affordable…
Whatever the options, the cost of the whole thing still is much under even a flint… Leaves more money for pizza… That is if you don’t NEED to go FFI…
My POV.September 14, 2004 at 8:14 pm #207958AnonymousInactiveAs always, a fast bunch of disks helps immensely for this sort of thing. Personally, I’ve found that pushing around SD uncompressed is easy on my system. When the rpf’s get to be in the 6 Mb range with a lot of color delta, things are a bit slower until it caches to RAM. I’ve had all sorts of tangles with SCSI, and so I’ve been trying to make IDE and SATA work for my drive needs.
September 15, 2004 at 9:57 pm #207967AnonymousInactiveGuess I’ll go for Sata Raid when Santa drops by…
(at 10K, don’t they ever BURN ?!!!!)L.T.
France.September 17, 2004 at 8:28 am #207964Diogo GirondiParticipantC* 3.02 on a Dual Xeon 3.2, Quadro FX 3000, 2GB RAM with SATA RAID 0 Array, pushing things at 600 MB/sec manages to play SD in RT or near realtime depending on the effects applied to it, and it kicks ass with HD content.
By the way anyone else having a bad time with 3.03 update?
September 18, 2004 at 11:10 am #207965AnonymousInactiveNope, got mine from diecreet (is ther anywhere else) and works fine. What kind of problem ?
September 18, 2004 at 10:28 pm #207963Diogo GirondiParticipantIf you are talking about the update, the only place I know where you can get the update is from discreet it self.
But I found some bugs when setting source frames, it doesn’t allow any number above 1001, like you type 3000 for instance and when you release it becomes 1001 automatically.
Motion path handles are behaving in a odd way when tweaked in the viewport, paint op sometimes activates and freezes the selection, so anywhere you click gets selected and the timeline current frame marker/handle can’t be selected sometimes (few times tho).
Also I can’t no longer track four point or more at the same time without one of the trackers getting completly insane, but when I track the first three and then the fourth alone everything goes fine.
And some people are complaining about crashes when exiting the RAM player in the Mac, didn’t tested that yet on Windows.
Things that didn’t happen with me in 3.0.2, the only problem that was really enoying me in v3.0.2 was selecting a point in a four corner layer on the second monitor, the cursor immediatly jumped to the first monitor.
I already sent a report to discreet to let them know, just wanna know if this is a isolate case or not, reseting paint and host.ini files didn’t helped.
Cheers,
diogoSeptember 19, 2004 at 11:05 am #207968nanukParticipantHi everyone,
Iwould also say, that Combustion is crap on a mac – but at my office these kind of apps are all on Mac, so I got to live with it. Has anybody a workaround to get mac-combustion render on a renderfarm like you can do it with a PC-version? Because I heard, that discreet will not bring out a backburner for mac.
THX Nanuk
October 2, 2004 at 10:06 am #207969BergMeisterParticipantIf you are using a Black Magic DeckLink card with Combustion 3 (Windows), do you get a full time client monitor (via SDI out) when scrubbing the timeline / feedback, or is it just when using the ram preview?
Has anyone tried the Decklink with Premiere?October 17, 2004 at 6:27 pm #207962RaykParticipantwhen everything is cached, you’ll get realtime playback. this doesn’t mean, you have to use the “render to ram” feature. in this case you can also scrub through.
outside from cached frames, playback rate depends on how fast your computer can render the frames, plus, if you run out of ram, time for pageing. but that doesn’t mean, you can playback from disk. combustion will always load whatever you have into ram.hope this helps.
-rayk
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