Can Flame2010 archive without pre blacked and timecoded the tape?

[chinbird]

Sorry for my bad English….Let me clarify my question in more detail….

Some body told me that after upgrade to Flame2010, he can archive project on a tape via assemble…..which means, there has no need to pre blacked and timecoded the tape so save lot of time. I’m using Flame2007 and very curious about this new feature…..Is it true or just a misunderstanding?

Hope someone out there with the luck to have latest Flame2010 play around can shade some light on me…..

Jeff

[tscholton]

Assemble edit has been an option in Flame for a long time, in 2010 they just replaced the process button with a blue popup that is either “insert” or “assemble”. In pre 2010 versions you just hold “control” when you click “output clip” to make assemble instead of insert.

[Zac]

Hi, Master Jeff:

I’m junior Jeff ;-)…..Thanks for the reply!

While output, yes I can holding CTL and pressing “Process” button for assemble edit.
But when I’m in Archive module, do I have the same functionality?
Can I just insert a brand new digibeta tape, without any black signal nor timecode on it, into the VTR, choose which project or library I’d like to archive, and holding CTL while press “Save” button (or “Save and Close” instead), then I can archive all the selected materials on the tape as normal?

Can’t find any Flame2010 that I can have a try……:-(

Jeff

[tscholton]

Sorry, I missed the archive part of your question. I am not sure about that capability in archive.

[cyril conforti]

why even archive to tape now adays? just goto file, much easier and safer.

[Jasper]

In smoke backup uses assemble by default, I don’t see why would flame backup be any different. You just need to stripe fist few seconds for preroll.

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

is there a 500gb limit per seg ?

@alatteri 29163 wrote:

why even archive to tape now adays? just goto file, much easier and safer.

[cyril conforti]

@rohit 29165 wrote:

is there a 500gb limit per seg ?

Don’t know, but even if so, not a problem. In fact I think its not a good idea to have 500gb segments. If ever you need to transport that somewhere, you are locked to having a 500gb drive. With smaller segments you can split them between drives. Its also easier to transfer smaller segments via internet.

[pixelmonk]

Mine is set up to archive in 1 or 2 GB chunks, (not in front of box)
Much better to have smaller ones, if you lose a couple of 1 or 2GB segments, you haven’t lost the whole of your archive, which could happen with a 500GB data file if it gets corrupted.
My only bugbear with file archiving is that the time estimation is seriously broken, which is a PITA when producers ask you how long your archive will take.

Paul

[Zac]

Hi, vizije, Thanks for your suggestion. I’d better give it a try on my Flame 2007. No chance to access Flame 2010…..pitty…….

As for file archive, I’m 100% support this idea! I’ve been argued with my colleaques about this issue for a while….they’re all used to use tape archive for a long time and think it’s not necessary to make the change……also one biggest question from them is…..it will take too much time to transfer the archived files from system HD to external HD……Any suggestion for me to convinced them? 😉

Jeff

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

“SERIOUSLY” broken sounds better… i arc’d 147 gb the other day it said 22 min but actually took around 45 min…quite erratic

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

system HD ??? use an external 500gb disk.

[Jasper]

@chinbird 29170 wrote:

also one biggest question from them is…..it will take too much time to transfer the archived files from system HD to external HD……Any suggestion for me to convinced them? 😉

First: do NOT archive on system drive. Mount external disk and archive directly to that disk.
Second: biggest argument should be (at least it’s on smoke) You can’t archive images that are bigger then HD resolution. Meaning if You have 4k background image it will not be archived while in file archive You can put whatever You want (once more: that is on smoke, int this case flame can be different)

My workflow is that I archive on fast network disk, and than backup that to ultrium tape.

(Good thing with archiving on HD tape is that even archive is broken, You still have IMAGE that You can capture on other systems and re-assemble it to some degree. That is why I ALWAYS put at least one clip of final in library before archiving.)

[Anonymous]

you cannot assemble edit for archive. must be an insert to a striped tape.

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