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We just started using a new Intel Mac, dual core and when exporting uncompressed 10 bit quicktimes out of Shake they are mostly noise. The other codecs, like Animation, work fine ( except for a minor color shift). This was never a problem on our Quad G5. Could this have something to do with Shake not being totally compatible with the new MAC or is there another issue?
At the company I work for we have ran into that problem as well. Half of us are working on Intel MACs and they seem to be the only ones running into that problem.
It does have to do with the codec. If you do not have the option to render from a non-Intel MAC, try rendering out your back-plate or elements as sequential image sequences.
If your running FCP make sure your running 5.1. If not, make sure you download the newest proapps update. It includes all the codec bug fixes. I don’t believe Software Update will update it with only Shake on the system.
dekekincaid wrote:If your running FCP make sure your running 5.1. If not, make sure you download the newest proapps update. It includes all the codec bug fixes. I don’t believe Software Update will update it with only Shake on the system.I have installed everything that was available in software update. There were no proapps updates at all, just 7.1.5 for quicktime.
is there something else I should be doing?
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fcp 5.1.4
shake 4.1
qt 7.1.5sjorgens wrote:I have installed everything that was available in software update. There were no proapps updates at all, just 7.1.5 for quicktime.Please reread what I posted.
I said Software update won’t download the right updates if you only have Shake on the system. You need to download the proapps updates off the Apple site.
dekekincaid wrote:sjorgens wrote:I have installed everything that was available in software update. There were no proapps updates at all, just 7.1.5 for quicktime.Please reread what I posted.
I said Software update won’t download the right updates if you only have Shake on the system. You need to download the proapps updates off the Apple site.
actually I posted the software I have on the system at the bottom there. I have final cut pro, shake and quicktime. Plus most of the other pro apps.
which pro apps update are you referring to? The latest I could find on the apple support site was 2006-2. Is there a newer one?
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I have found out that only the footage that has the black magic codec is affected. All the Kona stuff that we have here imports into shake fine, no problems. BUt blackmagic codec stuff comes in as pure noise.
anyone else still having these problems?
I have all the latest pro apps downloads.
The black magic codec only causes minor noise on the left side in my case. This usually gets cropped out when viewed on a TV or plasma. The only time it becomes a huge problem is when we try to do global color correction or color timing. Any kind of blur effects to CC washed the green and pink noise back in.
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The Blackmagic utility which lets you mount a QT as a virtual folder containing DPX files would maybe fix this…
the new decklink drivers from July 30th solved all of my problems!
Once I upgraded to FCP6 I stated having the problem again-AND – I have all the proapp updates. Any suggestions? Only happing when exporting and uncompressed 10bit quicktime
May have to do with FCP using a newer version of quicktime and Shakes older version.
as well I have been working peacefully with shake on my intel mac running final cut studio.
Yesterday I installed the new studio 2 and now anytime I render with the 10 bit 422 codec out of shake, when there are any mattes or rotos, there is massive noise & psycedelic colors.
I am of course trying to get a new project under way and frustration is setting in.
The only solution I have found is to render a tif sequence then convert it to the 10 bit 422 codec. There is a slight chroma shift when this is the pipe line.I have downloaded all updates and I am not sure where to go from here…
If anyone has any suggestions please help…
The way ive found to work around this (yes its more work but its this or not have uncompressed output.)
work with your FCP 10bit footage, export to a TGA sequence then bring it back in and render to 10bit QT.
The artifacts in 10bit is anytime there is something blurred or keyed or really affected.
so if you have a clean flat plate it will export to 10bit QT perfectly
this is completely unacceptable that Apple has not fixed this.
the Apple website says shake 4.1 is optimized for the new intel macs, however you can not properly render uncompressed 10 bit YUV.
Thus, any work you do in Shake has to be rendered in RGB first, then re-rendered in YUV.
Thus, if you bring in YUV material into shake to work on it, you unnecessarily have to make 2 colorspace conversions to get usable material out of Shake for video (YUV-RGB so you can render your work, then RGB-YUV to bring it back into FCP for exporting to tape. We are using it in PAL, but the same applies for NTSC.
If anyone has any better workarounds for this problem in regards to staying in YUV throughout the process in shake, PLEASE let me know.
Otherwise, keep bugging Apple for a Shake 5…. or maybe with the new marketing geniuses there … they’ll just call it the “iReallyShake 5000”
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