Color 1.0.1 works perfectly for film project

[kuban]

I just want to tell, that Color rocks! We just grade an independent feature now, which was shot with HDV, and transfer it to film with arrilaser. We get very accurate results with our crt monitor, and the luts we prepared with cinespace.

[Tobin]

hi kuban,

thats very interesting.
unfortunately i haven´t found the time to test color but i can´t wait to get my hands on it!

just a quick question, due to the fact that the original footage was HDV did you grade in 8bit?
(but you mentioned the use of LUT´s, so probably not..?)

maybe you could elaborate a bit about your workflow, we have mainly hd-cam and hd-sr projects so i would love to hear somethink about perfomance, etc…

thanks,

timor

[Sinan]

Hi Timor,
I work with 3Dlut that I generated in finaltouch (.mga) format. It is 16x16x16 cube. The project was shot on an hdv camera, and edited with edius software on windows. I got the project on edius, and exported each reel in .tga format from edius. Then I converted .tga sequences to 8bit dpx files. This conversion is just for compatibility with color, not LUTs applied. I just wanted to get rid of quicktime workflow, because I saw some gamma issues with quicktime encodings and I can’t risk my images!

The source images were in 960×720 non-square pixel, 16:9 aspect ratio. But I haven’t done any resize in color, I don’t want to filter my images. I have adjusted HV scale of the crt, to preview the correct aspect ratio. The aspect ratio resize is done the analog way 🙂

Then I use my primary in, as the lin2log converter. I just setup an input curve for each of my shots, then I start to grade in log space. I use float numbers internally in color, and output log 10 bit cineon files to arrilaser. I use cineon, because dpx format endianness is not compatible with our irix inferno systems, but cineon works. However I would like to use dpx format, if it were compatible with inferno.

By the way, some additional detail. I don’t use proxy. I don’t use Kona video. I use dual displays mode of color software. I use 1 lcd for gui, 1 crt for preview. I use the scopes window on crt monitor. I just scaled up to crop window bar! So I preview my client, an overscan full screen image.

Hope these details clears your questions. I would like to share experiences with color.

[Sinan]

@Timor 23880 wrote:

maybe you could elaborate a bit about your workflow, we have mainly hd-cam and hd-sr projects so i would love to hear somethink about perfomance, etc…

I have tested 2K, 10bit log dpx images, in realtime primary grading. It can even work with some simple secondaries. But for the current 960×720 procect, I can work at least 50fps!, with primary in, 2-3 secondaries with vignettes, and a primary out without any proxies.

I have also tested 2K images with 1K proxies, it was also very fast. But I haven’t tested or finished any 2K projects on color yet. However we plan to do so in near future.

[Tobin]

hi kuban,

thank you for the detailed workflow report.
nice to hear you´ve got realtime performance even with 2k and 10 bit.

i hope i got your workflow right from edius to color…
did you use a EDL? it sounded a bit like you where exporting each cut as a single picture sequence?

that´s my main worrie, i hear a lot of issues regarding the transfer from FCP to color and how it is very buggy…?(timecode errors, no multicam, etc…)

our plan was to edit on avid, transfer the timeline with automatic duck and batch in FCP (appearently FCP doesn´t like DNxHD). from FCP into color with a simplified timeline without titles, etc…

thanks again for all the valuable info,
cheers

timor

[Tobin]

hi kuban,

thank you for the detailed workflow report.
nice to hear you´ve got realtime performance even with 2k and 10 bit.

i hope i got your workflow right from edius to color…
did you use a EDL? it sounded a bit like you where exporting each cut as a single picture sequence?

that´s my main worrie, i hear a lot of issues regarding the transfer from FCP to color and how it is very buggy…?(timecode errors, no multicam, etc…)

our plan was to edit on avid, transfer the timeline with automatic duck and batch in FCP (appearently FCP doesn´t like DNxHD). from FCP into color with a simplified timeline without titles, etc…

thanks again for all the valuable info,
cheers

timor

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