!!!Combustion is Still DEAD, Thanks to AD!!!

[David Marte]

WTF happened with the latest release?????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!….. $200.00 for color warper??? are u kidding me???? is that all?…. its been more than 3.5 years since combustion got updated and this is all we get????…. If Discreet was still in the game combustion would of replaced flint by now. They did such an awesome job with combustion 4.. Autodesk seems too busy beefing up toxik at the moment!…. Shame, shame… I’m soooo disappointed, AUTODESK!…

-kidd

[nisanta buxi]

You might want to cut down on the question marks^^
Im sure there will be more to it than the colourwarper and i do agree that it is a overall bad pressrelease just letting this one feature slip out, which allready was post some month ago by mistake, so we kinda allready knew.

You don’t pay 200$ for the color warper.
You pay 200$ for a Compositor, its like buying a new cellphone.. it can do what it have been able to do in the last 15 years, while a little feature here and there sneak in and you pay fully for it. You do want to stay tuned if you are working with this kind of product to get full preformence.

Combustion 4 is outdated and they know, and the fact that they release another version is just a sign that they got a big enough userbase to continue the development of this software. Now from what you can see in the statement, Autodesk are’t trying to push this software to a higher level but rahter just update for the latest hardware / software support (we could always hope for some OFX or so, which i hardly dought and 64bit support wouldnt be bad eighter). Combustion is a strong composition package however not tuned for the industry any more. I know a few houses still uses it but its not something you want to invest in. AE have taken the dominance and within the powerfull CS enviroment i guess there is not much for Combustion to come for.
About Flint replacing Combustion i would disagree. You cannot compare Flint and Combustion. Flint is a industry suit while Combustion is a desktop compositor.
And i guess it is pretty wice for Autodesk not to put too much into the Combustioon project for as mentioned earlier the AE enviroment taking over and the true nodebased compositors taking over in the other end. They can still havest some money and keep a fairly good product alive, and that is what matters in this case.
While Toxic seems like a interesting initiative, a unique production enviroment that if breaking the ice would become a strong compaditor on the colaborative VFX market.

-MadsL

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

i like the cellphone comparison…very true.

[Andres]

@MadsL 24394 wrote:

You might want to cut down on the question marks^^
Im sure there will be more to it than the colourwarper and i do agree that it is a overall bad pressrelease just letting this one feature slip out, which allready was post some month ago by mistake, so we kinda allready knew.

You don’t pay 200$ for the color warper.
You pay 200$ for a Compositor, its like buying a new cellphone.. it can do what it have been able to do in the last 15 years, while a little feature here and there sneak in and you pay fully for it. You do want to stay tuned if you are working with this kind of product to get full preformence.

Combustion 4 is outdated and they know, and the fact that they release another version is just a sign that they got a big enough userbase to continue the development of this software. Now from what you can see in the statement, Autodesk are’t trying to push this software to a higher level but rahter just update for the latest hardware / software support (we could always hope for some OFX or so, which i hardly dought and 64bit support wouldnt be bad eighter). Combustion is a strong composition package however not tuned for the industry any more. I know a few houses still uses it but its not something you want to invest in. AE have taken the dominance and within the powerfull CS enviroment i guess there is not much for Combustion to come for.
About Flint replacing Combustion i would disagree. You cannot compare Flint and Combustion. Flint is a industry suit while Combustion is a desktop compositor.
And i guess it is pretty wice for Autodesk not to put too much into the Combustioon project for as mentioned earlier the AE enviroment taking over and the true nodebased compositors taking over in the other end. They can still havest some money and keep a fairly good product alive, and that is what matters in this case.
While Toxic seems like a interesting initiative, a unique production enviroment that if breaking the ice would become a strong compaditor on the colaborative VFX market.

-MadsL

I hope you’re righ… lets see

-kidd

[xuefeng xu]

You do realize that Autodesk has always been the parent company of Combustion. So how can you say anything would be any different if Discreet was still developing it. No matter what Autodesk was making the top down decisions. Your kind of statements are ignorant and uninformed at best.

-Eric

[Anonymous]

Combustion evolved from Denim Software’s Illuminare package. Its roots were on the Mac platform…and then a Windows version was added (I believe). Denim was purchased by Discreet Logic in 1997, and there was great hope at the time that Discreet would take the product to the next level. This was before DL was acquired by Autodesk the following year.

Check out the archive of the Denim Software site: http://web.archive.org/web/19970416140612/http://denimsoftware.com/

Since you used the word Combustion, you’re technically correct that Autodesk has always owned it….but I do remember the excitement when Discreet bought Denim.

[xuefeng xu]

Thanks for the info johnmont, is this where Paint* and Effect* came from?

-Eric

[chris]

exactly correct.

denim illuminare
>>>
discreet logic paint and effect (two apps)
>>>
discreet combustion

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