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Maybe not the best place to ask but what are the pro’s and cons of Combustion vs AE. Ive been using Combustion for a while because i prefer the interface but i always get the feeling that After Effects might be better at some stuff. Seems like its a lot more Plug-ins and such for AE.
Hi,
The short answer is that C* is a substantialy better compositor than AE; but the Adobe app’ definately has the edge in design work. I use AE but I trialed C* last year The Discreet interface is streets ahead, although Adobe have made significant headway in this area with AE7. AE has no proper schematic which is criminal in a profesional compositing app’. The plug-ins are great though!
It also depends what other app’s you use. Ae has better integration with the likes of PS, on the other hand if you excange stuff with Flame or Smoke then C* is the obvious choice.
HTH
Angus
angus wrote:Hi,The short answer is that C* is a substantialy better compositor than AE; but the Adobe app’ definately has the edge in design work. I use AE but I trialed C* last year The Discreet interface is streets ahead, although Adobe have made significant headway in this area with AE7. AE has no proper schematic which is criminal in a profesional compositing app’. The plug-ins are great though!
It also depends what other app’s you use. Ae has better integration with the likes of PS, on the other hand if you excange stuff with Flame or Smoke then C* is the obvious choice.
HTH
Angus
don’t really agree. with the apparition of Keylight, and with some third part plug in, AE rocks in keying and composting. Also the UI is not a tree, the process is a tree (one task after one task), so AE will do exactly the same work than a your tree in Combustion (it’s just another way of working…) .
And in terms of stability (what’s the more important…), AE is really better.The only problem i faced in doing composting in AE is that AE is not really made to
deal with big resolutions, but in this case, i really prefer moving to Shake than combustion…But that’s just my opinion…
And sorry for my poor english…
Well, I love AE and use it a lot for motion graphics, but for pure compositing (like “Forrest-meets-JFK” kind of effects) and fx on live footage combustion works much better. I’ve done this successfully in AE but I’ve found combustion much more comfortable for this kind of work.
When color-matching, there’s nothing close to c’s integrated color corrector. Yes, you have color finese, but you don’t see your output on broadcast monitor nor you can tweak it in context. Keylight can’t match discreet keyer on bad footage, although I must admit it handles color spills slightly better. Tracking still works better in combusion, although ae has improved a lot. Rotoscoping is much better in combustion than ae. Great tool not found in ae are selections, much more elegant than the approach of duplicating layers and masking. Also, i hate pre-comping all the time and ae’s flowchart view really sucks in comparison to c’s schematic.
I´m using c* since one of its first betas and i think it is a very good tool. In my oppinion it is the best allrounder. If you have to do a pure motion graphics job, perhaps ae is the better choice. I hate AE, but because of its plugins it is apowerful too. And the way it treats vector graphics kicks ass. If you have to do a hardtothecore compositing job shake might be your weapon to choose, or if some 3d objects play a roll perhaps fusion or nuke is your friend. I think combustion is a good combination of nodebased and layerbased compositing and i like to switch between them. The gui is a lot better then the adobe way. That is one reason, why i hate ae. even the new version didn´t made so much better. The color corrector of c is great, like in every discreet product and i fell in love with selections. Need a multiple cc? No prob! Do some selections but only prosses one footage. and the selections even interact if you want them to. As you can see i´m a discreet kid. i´m also a ffi op. and i like them too. for frontseat operating. but if you have to do a film job, nowdays i would choose shake to tackle it. shake is a very cool peace of software. down to the core.
so, the discusion about what is the best tool will never end i guess. but this is because of us. the users. because every one has to find HIS/HER tool regarding to the job he/she has to do.
perhaps toxic becomes the “allmighty”?! but this will take some time i guess!
make the illusion real!
nanuk
I prefer Combustion to After Effects myself. The color corrector is awsome. For film work C3 or C4 is way better than AE in my opinion. On the other hand if you want a good cross between Shake and Combustion you should look at FUSION. This app rocks.
regards
Alan Bell
Handmade DigitalAlanEBell wrote:I prefer Combustion to After Effects myself. The color corrector is awsome. For film work C3 or C4 is way better than AE in my opinion. On the other hand if you want a good cross between Shake and Combustion you should look at FUSION. This app rocks.regards
Alan Bell
Handmade DigitalIf your are working for handmade digital no doubt, that you like c*!
Sorry, you ARE Handmade Digital!And i agree: fusion is a good tool.
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