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Am consedering Smoke for a Editor. What is the cost of a used and new system… I am just looking for some numbers from to prices. TIA
Bill
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Apparently no one will tell you the price they paid for their Smoke system. You will have to try to get ahold of someone from Discreet. I have been trying for months… good luck.
Believe me Bill, you dont want to know.
We are considering getting an AVID DS system, I would like to push for a Smoke as I believe it will be more powerful and serve us better for doing digital intermediates.
I guess the new smokeSD on Linux will be about $60k. But if you need HD, then it should go above $160k, with Tezro. But smokeSD is aggressively priced, and should be a good price as an AVID system. But if you go HD, AVID will be a lot cheaper than smoke*… Plus there are lots of AVID editors, but very small amount of real smoke* editors, compared to AVID editors.
Smoke* is for very creative jobs, if you compare to AVID. But you have to spend more time on a simple job with smoke, becuase it is much more complex.Smoke cost goes from 60k to 150k depending on the license and the extras. I don’t think smoke is worth it. Complex doesn’t mean better and because of it’s old construction and configuration it is very limited on what it does.
Since I believe the future is flexibility, a rigid machine based on mid 90’s thinking and technology is like shooting yourself in the foot. My suggestion wait for the Powermac G5 to become a fully 64bit machine and invest in FCP and Shake. They are the cheaper, do more from cellphone video to Film and everything in between plus you can run them beside Photoshop, Office etc.
We all seem to like the cheaper systems we work on. But if you spend high quality workmenship in your product, and if you put lots of hours of workmenship into it. It will probably be a very good product. But if your clients are counted in hundreds, cost per license will be also high. Can you think the price of WindowsXP per client, if Microsoft sold only 1000 copies? Every client should pay 1/1000 of development cost then. So we are using highend products like discreet* IFFFS, and they have to be expensive.
And we, the artists are also important, because we use that expensive toys. All the artists seem like the product prices going down. But this also means, the artists price is going down. And the workmenship quality is going down. So we shouldn’t be against the highend, high quality systems, just because they are expensive. Can you think any negative side of inferno* other than being expensive?
BillGallagher wrote:Am consedering Smoke for a Editor. What is the cost of a used and new system… I am just looking for some numbers from to prices. TIABill
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smoke 6 on tezro will start at $68k
kuban wrote:We all seem to like the cheaper systems we work on.nnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
not me 😀i hate x86 independent from the os. it’s just cheap crap.
macs are bit better but osx is a ‘bsd-rape’ and you have no soft.
shake is nice but that’s it. finalcut is also nice but not what i call highend.
and 3d soft???? just maya and nearly no plgins? 😕i’ve never used quantel but all other is not nearly discreet. not to mention the ease of scalability and stability that SGI offeres and IRIX!!
$68k for smoke_tezro seems to be a good deal. I mean really good. Tezro is HD capable. Only the hardware of tezro would be close to this price. It is a very good deal. Where did you get this price?
kuban wrote:$68k for smoke_tezro seems to be a good deal. I mean really good. Tezro is HD capable. Only the hardware of tezro would be close to this price. It is a very good deal. Where did you get this price?from the charlie white preview 😀
my suites are smoke and fire. smoke 3 years ago with r36 stonefs (about 4 hours sd), 4 R12000 processors, 2 GB RAM on an Octane MXE cost about $200K. version upgrades are $7500. Buying a new Tezro will cost us just south of $100K according to our reseller. After this version or perhaps v7, the Octane will need to be replaced.
My smoke purchase included a full Sapphire sparks package and the HIPPI connection to fire. It does HD but doesn’t have the HD IO so fire does the clip inputs and outputs. An IO was about $20K and we didn’t need it at the time. Also that price includes phone tech support from Discreet and next day support from SGI. I strongly recommend it.
I think the competition has lowered the overall price but smoke is a high end, full featured system that comparitively is very fast for all it does.
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