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ultimind wrote:Discreet demos are very highly tuned to the specific product to make it look amazing. It’s when you get a backroom demo for yourself and get to throw your own layers in there that you see the real speed of the product. Don’t ever take the discreet demos as being realisitic.
I think its not that easy. Demos are usually “tuned” to look amazing concerning features (i.e. tracker does not fail, keying works with a few clicks, etc.) but an HD layer is an HD layer and if you move twenty of them it should not really matter whether those are discreets or your own.
In general I think you are right though about being sceptical.-k
that kind of makes it sound like that Demo’s like that are somehow unique to Discreet, most unfair IMO. Every product demo is obviously designed to show the strengths that it has and to skirt over the weak areas. The real skill that experience of attending demo’s should get you is the ability to notice what ISN’T said and to find out afterwards WHY it wasn’t said.
I actually beleive that Discreet demo’s acurately reflect the product way better than most, some are utterly shameless in regards to the issues that they try and disguise.
Angus [/quote]
ultimind wrote:Discreet demos are very highly tuned to the specific product to make it look amazing. It’s when you get a backroom demo for yourself and get to throw your own layers in there that you see the real speed of the product. Don’t ever take the discreet demos as being realisitic.I think it’s a bit unfair to suggest that discreet is alone in the practice of tuning their demos…everyone does it, and it’s a little difficult to fake a demo with 20 HD layers. Even if they were using proxies how would that not be representative of a typical HD workflow? Aside from keying, or roto who doesn’t use proxies?
The way I hear it Tezro’s going to be end-of-life before the end of the year because of technical specs changing in the EU and the states.
In which case there won’t really be a choice of SGI or IBM…
can you elaborate on “tech specs” ? you mean the tezro won’t be supported.? or there will be another new machine??
trying to decide on an upgrade path at the moment..
ultimind wrote:Discreet demos are very highly tuned to the specific product to make it look amazing. It’s when you get a backroom demo for yourself and get to throw your own layers in there that you see the real speed of the product. Don’t ever take the discreet demos as being realisitic.as every company does 😉
flameop wrote:trying to decide on an upgrade path at the moment..i would definitely suggest to wait ❗
Just had the flame guy, installing our Tezro system. Tells me that the Linux system will be more expense than the Tezro, something to do with additional fibre channel support systems, therefore more hardware, more money… Software price is the same.
icarus wrote:Just had the flame guy, installing our Tezro system. Tells me that the Linux system will be more expense than the Tezro, something to do with additional fibre channel support systems, therefore more hardware, more money… Software price is the same.It’s only more expensive if you need 2k support. HD and SD cost the same, but 2k needs 2 stones under linux in order to playback.
I’ve been demo-ing flame on linux for the past week. Did some side-by-side comparisons with the old flame on Octane2, and the linux was consistently 3 or 4 times faster in SD. Haven’t done any HD work, yet. Has a few bugs, some seem to be software bugs, others are related to linux, nothing too bad. Price is around 125K U.S. with 2 stones. We were considering the Tezro, but as many here have been saying, it’s on its way out.
Cheers.
hi,
thanks for the details,
one question, though, are you sure about the price???
seems pretty low to me, i´ve heared, it is similar to a tezro systems price, maybe even slightly higher due to 2 stones w hardware raid…ciao
robert
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