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May 28, 2007 at 10:19 pm #201640hadtodoParticipant
I am using the sequence that shot by Panasonic DVC Pro SDX 900. It is the 4:2:2 sampling rate and compressed slightly. I was shooting in front of green screen and will composite with simple color background. I try to make it as film, so does anyone know the best way to do it.
May 29, 2007 at 7:37 am #215635zinniaParticipantWhat do you mean exactly by “making it as film” or “the film feel”?
May 29, 2007 at 8:31 am #215639Penelope ReindlParticipantsorry for my bad English. The thing is that I dont like the digital feel, so is any good way I can do it in shake to make it looks like film.
May 29, 2007 at 12:10 pm #215636zinniaParticipantThe visual differences beetween a digitized film image and a video image are on these main points :
– Different gamma curves. (The film medium reacts differently to light than a CCD)
– Film is usually more grainy.
– Depending on how the film has been digitized, it can have a slight gate weave.So if you want your video to look like it has been shot on film try these operations :
– Grade your shot so it has a strong contrast and a strong saturation.
– Then you can add a slight grain filter
Thaty should mimic the basic look of film.My definition of “film look” is based on the medium not on the way of capturing images. Some people make a confusion on this term and think that just because you shoot with a film camera you’ll get a special look right out of the box; and if you film with a video camera you’ll get crappy results like the guy filming his family playing with the dog. You can make film look like video and video look like film. It’s just a matter of having the good persons knowing how to get good pictures out of their camera whatever it is film or video.
August 8, 2007 at 6:59 pm #215638Victor MakaliParticipant@moonmoon 23687 wrote:
Grade your shot so it has a strong contrast and a strong saturation.
Then you can add a slight grain filter
Thaty should mimic the basic look of film.
thx.The blacks should never be 100% black. But close. And I disagree with the “Strong Saturation” Video is more saturated than film I would say. So I would go with less saturation. The grain is good. Always add grain to a comp even if your not going for the “film look”. It just helps a lot to marry the elements together. If your video was shot at 30fps then field merge (or deinterlace) the clip and speed it up to 125% and change the frame rate of the clip to 24fps. Then after the comp is done add 3:2 back in or just let the editor do that. That helps a lot too.
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August 9, 2007 at 10:48 pm #215637AnonymousInactivedifferences;
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video is interlaced. NTSC is 60 fields per second (half-frames interlaced every other vertical line). film is approx. 24 frames per second with a 180 degree shutter (1/48th). you can convert 60i to 24p in shake.gamma
as mentioned above, there is a different gamma curve to film. film is ‘softer’ as far as the gamma. you can mimic this lok with ‘lookup’.color
film carries the spectrum of color on 3 layers (RGB). Video is (generally) converted to YUV space, and compressed to 4:1:1 or 4:2:2. This means that color information is less detailed than luma. you can blur the UV (see DV keying tutorials), and there is a plugin becoming available shortly for this in Shake,,, which is not a chroma blur…noise
film is softer than video as far as detail as well. one way to achieve this in shake is to blur the footage (approx. 8 pix for NTSC), then apply a mix operator, and mix the blur with the original… around 50%. also, video is noisy and it’s ‘grain’ character is more harsh and has more variance in size. i would recommend denoising the video, then adding a small amount of (softer) film grain. -
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