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April 19, 2009 at 6:30 am #202818deadbeats77_vbParticipant
hi. tell me if i am out of line here – but D5 footage kind of sucks. it is really tough to get a good key off of. am i wrong? anyway – im working on a project right now with D5 footage. any tips for keying with D5 in flame? thanks…
April 20, 2009 at 4:27 am #217778Martin FurnessParticipantHonestly! I really couldn’t tell you that D5 footage sucks for keying. I have keyed pretty much anything and everything shot on every and all formats out there. I have keyed D5 footage that has sucked and D5 footage that was amazing, but I could say the same thing about any and all formats. Depending on the lighting, distance, lens, stops, focal point, ect.ect. I just finished a feature at 10bit and a music video shot RED, along with a new high end Honda commercial shot HD and I can tell you that the Honda commercial footage that was shot on green literally took one click of the Mstr. Keyer and I had an amazing matte, where as the feature and RED had a ton of spill and took alot of time due to someones inexperience! Do you think you have had better luck keying from Digi Beta compared to D5. Are we talking 4:2:2 compared to 4:4:4? If all you have been working with is SR then ya I hear ya on the D5. But then again i’ve keyed crap from VHS to RED and everything in between.
April 20, 2009 at 6:38 am #217779Tiago DiasParticipantshoot – i couldn’t tell all the specs on this spot right now. i just know it came from D5 and i’m trying to pull keys from footage that wasn’t shot on green or blue screen, shot on this kinda sky-blue bg that is actually supposed to be a sky – but my edges are giving me hell – especially the hair of the talent. i mean – im making it work – but was mainly wondering if there were any tricks like blurring a certain color channel or something. kinda like keying DV. but ya – everytime i try to key this stuff im getting some super ugly compression artifacts around the edges.
April 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm #217777Martin FurnessParticipantI hear ya on the edges thing! As far as getting rid of the artifacts on the edges, well you can only do so much and more than likely all the tricks and tips in the book prob. wont get you a perfect edge. Just do what I do! If someone throws me some crap that wasnt shot correctly to pull a key, then I usually will explain to them what the challenges are and what the reality of the outcome will be. If your replacing the B/G completely then the challenges that may arise could be significant. I’ve been through this a thousand times and usually it works out pretty good. Utilize all the modules offered, experiment, and you will be surprised. Are there any “specific” tricks….Not really, just the experience and knowledge of dealing with that situation over and over again. Good Luck~
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