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I saw King Kong on thursday and I was really impressed with Kong. At sometimes you forget kong is a cg character. The Animation at times was
a little dicey especially scenes that were hand animated vs mocap.Hats off to Weta,They did a magnificent job. From what I was told most of the shots
were created in Maya, (photoshop,zbrush for paint), shake (compositing),
lustre (for color grading),massive for crowd simulation,Renderman (rendering).i saw it as well and i thought it was amazing. they must have a pretty big staff at weta, to get 3000+ fx shots done in the time frame they had. wow! congrats to weta and peter jackson. the New York scenes looked fantastic. actually, everything looked fantastic.
the Lustre, grade looked especially nice as well. Does anyone know if weta uses flame or inferno at their shop?
As I know they got 1 Inferno down there. But I only heard that.
Greetz Nanuk
They certainly had Infernos and Flames for Lord Of The Rings.
loops wrote:They certainly had Infernos and Flames for Lord Of The Rings.That’s good to hear, I was starting to get the feeling that FFI is out of the picture in the film indestry. (having bad dreams at night, of me umimployed.. 😯 )
though I already understood that it will not be a bad idea to start exploring other softwares, like Shake for exp….I´ve got a friend who worked as a Senior Inferno artist at lord of the rings and he had two junior Flame artist suporting so i guesss they used sine FFI at least back then.
saw Kong on Sat….
while I thought it was /very/ entertaining and Kong himself was really really fantastic (by far the best actor in the film) I have to say that (like LOTR) the effects overall were very inconsistent…from Kong being soooo convincing and emotionally engaging on screen to really bad simple comps – most shots of Kong carrying whatsername were terrible…
I feel bad saying it (I have friends who worked on it)…but the blame, IMO, rests squarely on Peter Jackson…wanting to put as much into a film as possible is great, and as a film lover I’m grateful for the passion and desire to entertain…but there were a couple of sequences in Kong that could have been dropped (because they added /nothing/ to the film in any way – spider pit being chief among them) which would have allowed an appropriate amount of time for all the other shots…arctor wrote:saw Kong on Sat….
while I thought it was /very/ entertaining and Kong himself was really really fantastic (by far the best actor in the film) I have to say that (like LOTR) the effects overall were very inconsistent…from Kong being soooo convincing and emotionally engaging on screen to really bad simple comps – most shots of Kong carrying whatsername were terrible…
I feel bad saying it (I have friends who worked on it)…but the blame, IMO, rests squarely on Peter Jackson…wanting to put as much into a film as possible is great, and as a film lover I’m grateful for the passion and desire to entertain…but there were a couple of sequences in Kong that could have been dropped (because they added /nothing/ to the film in any way – spider pit being chief among them) which would have allowed an appropriate amount of time for all the other shots…this is so true!
Also maybe lose half an hour at the beginning, then give us the trip back to New York on the boat and maybe a bit more in New York
Well, they use Shake to many (i really think all) shots…
Ive seen alot of behind the compositing on LOTR and King Kong, and i only saw Shake….So, im not shure that they use Flame or Inferno?
And if you have like 3000+ shots… you def. need a most cost effective outcome which is Shake…I once went to an Apple event to introduce Shake into my Country and they showed material from LOTR with great pride as the main comp for the project.
They had some clips of the work in Shake, the thing is that as far as I know they use it on Linux. Don’t know wether they have incorporated Macs to Kong
malu05 wrote:Well, they use Shake to many (i really think all) shots…
Ive seen alot of behind the compositing on LOTR and King Kong, and i only saw Shake….So, im not shure that they use Flame or Inferno?
And if you have like 3000+ shots… you def. need a most cost effective outcome which is Shake…No doubt they used Shake for the vast majority of the shots, but there’s also not much debate about whether they used flame and inferno for some stuff. There are still alot of shots that can be done more efficiently on a discreet box.
malu05 wrote:Well, they use Shake to many (i really think all) shots…
Ive seen alot of behind the compositing on LOTR and King Kong, and i only saw Shake….So, im not shure that they use Flame or Inferno?
And if you have like 3000+ shots… you def. need a most cost effective outcome which is Shake…what they dont show u in the behind the scenes material is the clips they outsource from weta. Often to houses with FFI suites.
Funny, was reading this thread, and checking news here I go seconds later :
from http://millimeter.com/mag/big_picture_0106/
Weta primarily used Maya for animation, Pixar RenderMan and Apple Shake for rendering, Digital Domain Nuke and Discreet Inferno for compositing, and Massive for digital crowd work.
Don’t want to enter the ffi/shake war, just for info, and as info 😉
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