Monitors

[Michael Schlesinger]

neonmarg wrote:

lanky wrote:

I was at XTFX the other day and they have the eizo montiprs with the new autodeesk systems. Very nice, but pretty expensive. We are buying them here for dev work, they really are good

Be sure to look at these carefully – if it’s the one I have used I was shocked by how the display was so bad unless you are sitting directly in the center of the screen… like a client off to one side would see a completely washed out picture. Same with someone standing behind you, seriously one sweet spot dead center.

Jeff

I have the EIZO monitor, and have no idea what are you talking about, I never noticed anything like you just described

[McArdell]

VictorWol wrote:

I have the EIZO monitor, and have no idea what are you talking about, I never noticed anything like you just described

I’ll get model # tomorrow and post.

Jeff

[Michael Schlesinger]

neonmarg wrote:

VictorWol wrote:

I have the EIZO monitor, and have no idea what are you talking about, I never noticed anything like you just described

I’ll get model # tomorrow and post.

Jeff

The model I have is the CE240W and I’m very happy with it.

[Richard Dean]

We just got an Ezio monitor for eval
Jeff is correct
it looks great when straight on viewing
but when you sit next to the artist the picture gets very washed out.
I have not seen any flat panel that is nearly as god as our crt’s
I just hope they will last long enough for a decent lcd to come along

[Sajjadul Islam]

Hey guys! I’m in the same situation over here. We really need to repalce the ginormous SGI/Sony monitor with an LCD. I have tested two different Sonys, 1 sasung, 1 acer and one HP. can provide modelnumber if that’s wanted… But none of them work with the Octane. =(

I have changed the display properties to 50 Hz but still no luck. Over at vfxtalk.com a nice fella said that the SGI sends syng over the green signal…? Is that so? How can i get that to work with a normal monitor?

Hope you can help me out guys =)

[Sajjadul Islam]

Now I have tested a modded VGA-cable. Pin 11-15 removed so the H&V-sync won’t mess something up. The problem is that with that cable the original monitor doesn’t work either. So, what is the spec of a correct moded cable?

I read about the mod here:
http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14335&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=vga+cable&start=15

NEO wrote:

Hey guys! I’m in the same situation over here. We really need to repalce the ginormous SGI/Sony monitor with an LCD. I have tested two different Sonys, 1 sasung, 1 acer and one HP. can provide modelnumber if that’s wanted… But none of them work with the Octane. =(

I have changed the display properties to 50 Hz but still no luck. Over at vfxtalk.com a nice fella said that the SGI sends syng over the green signal…? Is that so? How can i get that to work with a normal monitor?

Hope you can help me out guys =)

[bnw]

NEO wrote:

Over at vfxtalk.com a nice fella said that the SGI sends syng over the green signal…?

Hi again 🙂

If you cut the H and V lines and it still doesn’t work I’d say your screens definitely don’t support sync on green. Some do, some just flat out don’t. There are/were sync convertor boxes available which convert an SOG signal from the Octane into a normal RGBHV one but they were fairly pricey.

Some LCDs do support it even when they don’t mention it… I have a Dell 2005FPW which definitely does, but it’s 60hz only which is pain for Flame 🙂

Honestly, it’s really hard to find a good LCD…

[Sajjadul Islam]

This is a bit embaressing… The power from the KVM-extdener had sliped out. So the cable do work.

The problem is that as soon as i start a PAL or NTSC project in the FLAME and it adjusts the screen I loose sync and picture. =(

loops wrote:

NEO wrote:

Over at vfxtalk.com a nice fella said that the SGI sends syng over the green signal…?

Hi again 🙂

If you cut the H and V lines and it still doesn’t work I’d say your screens definitely don’t support sync on green. Some do, some just flat out don’t. There are/were sync convertor boxes available which convert an SOG signal from the Octane into a normal RGBHV one but they were fairly pricey.

Some LCDs do support it even when they don’t mention it… I have a Dell 2005FPW which definitely does, but it’s 60hz only which is pain for Flame 🙂

Honestly, it’s really hard to find a good LCD…

[wwatkins12]

On the OCTANE, the “Hires 25Hzf” and “Hires 30Hzf” modes needed to synchronize graphics with video are kinda weird: they work well with the original SGI 21″ CRTs, but can definitely cause problems with other monitors. The problem is that if you don’t use those genlocked modes (for instance, you use “Hires 60Hz” or “Hires 50Hz”), then the field dominance on the output of the OCTANE Digital Video card will flip randomly, which makes it hard to playback interlaced material to the broadcast monitor (output to VTR takes a different path and is not affected).

So if you can live with that (and are not too worried about losing audio/video sync during long playbacks), you could try configuration your NTSC/PAL project config files with “Hires 60Hz” / “Hires 50Hz”, and that might make your monitor happier.

Also, keep in mind that most LCD panels will resample all incoming signals to 60Hz, which makes for pretty awful motion rendition when working at 48/72 or 50Hz.

JF

[Sajjadul Islam]

Sweet man! Seems to work! 😀 I have not stresstested it yet though. But seems smooth. Have to try another monitor to since this one has some discolorations, almost looks like some magnet would be nearby. Must be something with my cable or settings.

panisset wrote:

On the OCTANE, the “Hires 25Hzf” and “Hires 30Hzf” modes needed to synchronize graphics with video are kinda weird: they work well with the original SGI 21″ CRTs, but can definitely cause problems with other monitors. The problem is that if you don’t use those genlocked modes (for instance, you use “Hires 60Hz” or “Hires 50Hz”), then the field dominance on the output of the OCTANE Digital Video card will flip randomly, which makes it hard to playback interlaced material to the broadcast monitor (output to VTR takes a different path and is not affected).

So if you can live with that (and are not too worried about losing audio/video sync during long playbacks), you could try configuration your NTSC/PAL project config files with “Hires 60Hz” / “Hires 50Hz”, and that might make your monitor happier.

Also, keep in mind that most LCD panels will resample all incoming signals to 60Hz, which makes for pretty awful motion rendition when working at 48/72 or 50Hz.

JF

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

just got the eizo coloredge CE240W…very very nice……. flintHD sp4 ext1 on the hp 9400

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