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😆 WOW that looks amazing!!! I wonder why Lustre and not something like flint? Could it be because of shake? Would be really nice to be able to configure a G5 to run flint HD. I have noticed new programs for CC on OS X like Final Touch HD, I think its great to see Autodesk finally working together more for the professional artist and not so much becuase of competition between software.
…competition never hurts either 😉
Lustre on mac was branded as “on-set colour correction for directors” to give their ideas to a colourist. Not as a full blown tool to be used on a G5. Thats why it was running on a powerbook. It’s designed to work with 1k images in realtime. I was told that it would work with 2k images without a problem, it would just be a limitation of the disks. So that leads me to believe that they simply ported Lustre for windows over to OSX. The program was not given a name yet…it was NOT called lustre though.
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Why the systems running under Linux are still 8 bits?
Because the Tezro can do 10 and 12bit and it costs a whole hell of a lot more. 😉
yes but there are systems ( even final cut ) that work in 10-12 bits
It’s one of discreet’s many ways of limiting their lower end systems. To make higher end systems like Tezro and Onyx seem more attractive.
it is sad that they do not understand that things have been changing. I really like discreet applications and i recognize that sgi is great, but there has to be a technical reason. Today you can get 10-12 bits rgb 4:4:4 in systems that cost near u$20.000.
last week i wanted to buy a DM5 board for Octane2 ( the main purpose of that board is to monitor to a Hd broadcast rgb monitor ) and the cost was u$40.000 !!.. one board!!
I would no buy anything from sgi untill they move to Linux.tomas wrote:it is sad that they do not understand that things have been changing. I really like discreet applications and i recognize that sgi is great, but there has to be a technical reason. Today you can get 10-12 bits rgb 4:4:4 in systems that cost near u$20.000.
last week i wanted to buy a DM5 board for Octane2 ( the main purpose of that board is to monitor to a Hd broadcast rgb monitor ) and the cost was u$40.000 !!.. one board!!
I would no buy anything from sgi untill they move to Linux.I totally agree, why stuck to 8bit. However I think one of the reason, was that when they did smoke/flint for linux there was only a 8bit graphic card availble (fx3000) and since discreet use the GPU all the time, compared to FCP which dosen’t. this makes more sence. HOWEVER is it a big effort for discreet to make Flint 10bit ?? or is it only political ??? I’m not to say … but I hope somebody might know if a 10 bit flint is coming or if it just then called a flame instead!
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jonasThey DO understand that things are changing. If a fuil blown discreet setup with hardware and software only costed $30,000 it would open up the floodgates to many editors and effects artists. There’s a reason why discreet software costs $100,000+ and that is to keep the high end market HIGH END. There’s thousands of Final Cut systems that go for $20-100/hr… Smokes go for $500-1000+ per hour because clients know what they’re paying for. They’re paying for the highest of the high end edit systems.
ultimind wrote:They DO understand that things are changing. If a fuil blown discreet setup with hardware and software only costed $30,000 it would open up the floodgates to many editors and effects artists. There’s a reason why discreet software costs $100,000+ and that is to keep the high end market HIGH END. There’s thousands of Final Cut systems that go for $20-100/hr… Smokes go for $500-1000+ per hour because clients know what they’re paying for. They’re paying for the highest of the high end edit systems.This is such a stupid argument…!
Your statement implies that the only thing discreet has to do, to be highend, is keep prices high!
If (in theory) FCP could do the same or more than smoke (I’m not going into this, but it seems the gap is narrowing) than discreet could charge as much as they want, they would not be highend anymoreI do not think it is fair to compare fcp to smoke. Regardless of the hardware or 8bit,10bit, etc… The toolset is not nearly the same. I can not imagine working with fcp and achieving the same results as I do with smoke. Or at least in the same time. Not because the hardware is so much faster but because the software and toolset is much more advanced. That is what makes discreet high end.
I would not compare smoke with fcp. I think smoke is the best software for online that i have ever seen. The point is why it is 8 bits. There is no technical reason ( i think ) for this. It seems that is a commercial thing. Anyway there is a new Linux sgi machine 64 bits.
mdoane wrote:I do not think it is fair to compare fcp to smoke. Regardless of the hardware or 8bit,10bit, etc… The toolset is not nearly the same. I can not imagine working with fcp and achieving the same results as I do with smoke. Or at least in the same time. Not because the hardware is so much faster but because the software and toolset is much more advanced. That is what makes discreet high end.You are right but I just wanted to stress the point that it is not enough to be high priced to be high end.
Personally I think that discreet has lost alot of the advantages which made them so extremely special and valueable.
I mean most of their stuff is still the best but it is not as much better compared to the competition as it used to be.
And pricing becomes an issue then.-k
Well but is a $80,000 difference worth it? We can all agree that Smoke is more mature than FCP. However like someone said, that difference is narrowing with each version.
Plus with that $80,000 you can buy FCP+Shake+Xserve(s)+XRAID running a SAN
and a couple of G5’s+some HD 10Bit-12Bit cards and still have money to invite your girlfriend to dinner 😆
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