New Flame Tutorials not compatible with older versions?

[Henning]

I am new to Flame and thought the tutorials on the Autodesk web site might be a good starting point to learn it. However, I am having problems loading the archives. Does anybody know if the new tutorials are incopatible to older versions of Flame? I am on version 8.5.6 I believe and every time I try to load a tutorial archive I get an error message saying: “CLP MGT: Warning: Error reading header. Select online TOC?”. When I hit confirm the file browser opens but won’t let me select the archive.

To make a long story short: Anybody can tell me what a TOC is or better yet, how to open those tutorial archives on my system?

Thanks.

[guillem ramisa]

Henning wrote:

I am new to Flame and thought the tutorials on the Autodesk web site might be a good starting point to learn it. However, I am having problems loading the archives. Does anybody know if the new tutorials are incopatible to older versions of Flame? I am on version 8.5.6 I believe and every time I try to load a tutorial archive I get an error message saying: “CLP MGT: Warning: Error reading header. Select online TOC?”. When I hit confirm the file browser opens but won’t let me select the archive.

To make a long story short: Anybody can tell me what a TOC is or better yet, how to open those tutorial archives on my system?

Thanks.

That is an error message you usually get when an archive is corrupt. Your machine can’t read the “header” or “table of contents” so it doesn’t know where or what is in the archive. I don’t know if you get this error message because your machine is too old and can’t read that archive or if the archive really is broken.
The OTOC file is a backup file of the header that is located locally on your machine. It’s generated for safety reasons. But that one you obviously don’t have because you didn’t create the archive.

[Gianpiero Chiacchiari]

Thanks for your reply. I found out about the TOC myself. I guess next time I should read the manual before posting… 😳 None the less, I cannot open the archive. I also failed at opening an archive from DigiBeta just now. This time I actually found a TOC file on the machine but the opening process was aborted for some reason… So maybe it’s a problem with this particular system rather than version incompatibility issues.

[Thomas Richter]

i spoke to one of our seniors and he seems to think that no, the segs/headers created on newer versions are NOT compatible with older ones.

further, he said he has been in contact with discreet about getting these tutorials released with 9.0 compatibility (or something older, perhaps) so more of us can access these tutes. but… so far discreet hasn’t come up with anything.

this is bad news for people like us, trying to learn. the older tutorials are quite hard to get hold of….

🙁

i have older tute seg/header files, but no documentation to tell me what to do with them. does anyone have the pdfs for the older tutes?

[eric]

scottg wrote:

i have older tute seg/header files, but no documentation to tell me what to do with them. does anyone have the pdfs for the older tutes?

witch tut version do you guys need? i have might have the version 8 tut. If that could help. i could post it tomorrow.
Also you think i did open 8.X archive on 9.x system from the same machine the archive was created with without using OTOC. so if you guys refering to older versions than that. i can’t help

[Thomas Richter]

oxyde wrote:

witch tut version do you guys need? i have might have the version 8 tut. If that could help. i could post it tomorrow.

thanks oxyde, the v8 tute docs would be great! we have the working files lying around somewhere (will have to chase them up with the training dept) but i definitely need the docs.

how were you going to post them up? if you need to email me my address is scottg {at} al DOT com DOT au. if other people want them i can put them on a web server and provide a link.

[Anonymous]

scottg wrote:

i spoke to one of our seniors and he seems to think that no, the segs/headers created on newer versions are NOT compatible with older ones.

it’s even worser… when changing from an inferno 3.x to an inferno 5.x I wasn’t able to open the tutorial files which came with 3.x the Update wasn’t shipped with tutorials data, only pdfs 🙁
Now that there’s a lot of data avaible for download, most of the data comes as archive and the version I’m using isn’t able to open it too. I think you can get into a lot of trouble if you use this for backups…

scottg wrote:

i have older tute seg/header files, but no documentation to tell me what to do with them. does anyone have the pdfs for the older tutes?

Have you tried to access the documentation library on one of the autodesk servers?
http://www1.discreet.com/site/documentation.nsf/documentation
-klaus

[Thomas Richter]

hey guys,

it took me a while to get things sorted out. i talked to my training dept, and they sorted me out with the username/password to get into the discreet site, where the v7 flame docs are.
the scene files were a different matter, we had to chase down autodesk australia, who in turn chased down hq in montreal, to get the files, as australia didn’t have copies! or something like that.

anyway, i’m all sorted, but i don’t know about any of you other guys out there. if anyone wants the pdfs, i’m sure that won’t be a problem, but of course the scene files are another matter.

[Saran Sirikasamsap]

just to let u guys [ in asia/pacific] know…discreet singapore keeps copies of a lot of tutorial footage sd/hd/film

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