Shake purchase

[Anonymous]

Hello all,

I am a student who has done a lot of commercial work with Lightwave. I recently moved to the Mac and have found that to continue in my work I need a compositor. I want to do this right, and stick to the Mac. That limits my compositing packages to Shake, Combustion, After Effects, and D2 Nuke.

Here is why I’m having trouble deciding upon the software to purchase: Combustion is owned by Autodesk, which I have had very poor upgrading/support experiences with. D2 Nuke is too expensive for my budget. Though I own many licenses to Adobe products, I’m not sure that I want to go with After Effects. So basically, Shake is my top choice. But my question there is, should I buy Shake when development on it has been paused? Will any skills that I have developed in it be wasted once I have to buy the next-gen Apple compositor?

Thanks a lot!

[felicity remezani]

Hello

Although I prefer Fusion and Nuke I find that After Effects CS3 can be quite powerful. If you can get around the constant render buffer errors. If you can deal with using proxies on huge camera pulls etc. If fusion and Nuke are out of your price range you are probably stuck with Shake and After effects and I may be one of the few but I dont like the idea of using an unsupported software package.

PS. Anyone heard of Apples so called Flame Killer? …lol

[Cemal]

For 500 bucks and unlimited render nodes in OSX of course, how could you afford not to. Still is and will continue to be a powerful player in the compositing world.

swerve.

[Anonymous]

Thanks guys for the tips. When Apple releases the next-generation compositor, will it be similar to Shake? Will I have lost all helpful techniques that I would have learned, and do you think that the Shake project files will be compatible with it?

[christian]

Think Motion and after effects.
Thats what i hear it will be like.
C

[Deadmojo NN]

@skulleyb 24270 wrote:

Think Motion and after effects.
Thats what i hear it will be like.
C

Actually there is no new software from Apple. The only thing you will see is some of the features from Shake being added to Motion. It is certainly not a Flame killer.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the input, guys. I guess my question is basically: will my skillset be lost if I buy Shake now?

That’s the deciding factor for me.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the input, guys. I guess my question is basically: will my skillset be lost if I buy Shake now?

That’s the deciding factor for me.

[A. Martin Serrano]

@filmfx66 24275 wrote:

Actually there is no new software from Apple. The only thing you will see is some of the features from Shake being added to Motion. It is certainly not a Flame killer.

Where did you get that information ? Is it true or you are just assuming ?

[Anonymous]

I was under the assumption that this bit from Wikipedia indicated that there would be new software from Apple:

Quote:

At the same time, Apple also announced that they would end support for Shake, as they begin work on the next-generation software, codenamed Phenomenon to be released in 2008.

[Anonymous]

I was under the assumption that this bit from Wikipedia indicated that there would be new software from Apple:

Quote:

At the same time, Apple also announced that they would end support for Shake, as they begin work on the next-generation software, codenamed Phenomenon to be released in 2008.

[A. Martin Serrano]

@skulleyb 24270 wrote:

Think Motion and after effects.
Thats what i hear it will be like.
C

Where did you heard that ?

Motion and After effects are both Motion graphic apps not Compositing application. The shake replacement will need to be a compositing software. Think node base . . .

Feel to me that nobody know what’s going on at Apple and people just gave up and start to think that nothing new will come out of their pro apps department.

But the last think we heard from them was that they where working on a new compositing app to replace Shake. They had a press release about it. Also, a guy from Apple gave an interview here at fxguide … So let’s wait and see. Unless they made another statement after . . . If they miss NAB 2008 then . . . I give up too .

[Anonymous]

Seeing that Shake was used in the Harry Potter movies and the Lord of the Rings, not to mention Kong and a few others, I’ve decided that it definitely fits the bill for me. I’ve also decided that the learning curve isn’t quite so big of a deal since I use a plethora of other difficult apps with no problem.

Thanks though for the input. I am going to purchase Shake and upgrade to Phenomenon when it comes out. ‘Cause it will 😉

[Anonymous]

Well, I noticed that Shake actually helps to understand and learn compsiting kind of from the ground up. Get Shake and the book “Digital Compositing for Film and Video” from Steve Wright.
regards

[Dan Carr]

Anybody hears recent news for the new phenomenon appz? Nothing seems to be released…:( I think we are a couple of discreet or shake user that waiting for a complete package with comp and editing on both phenomenon and next extreme version of FCP. If there is some apple guys around, it’s time a make a move.

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