System requirements for Irix Flame 2007? Building own Octane 2 Irix box!

[clint hernandez]

Hows it going, Iam in the market for a used flame system, I found a turnkey system for 12,000, which is not bad for flame 2007, the new linux boxes are just way out of the question though for me, I just stay at my facility to work on the 08 version.

Though I realize I could save a lot of money If I get a deal on the software and licenses, etc, by building my own box.

Are these requirements acurate I found. Let me know if this is true for the system requirements for the Irix Flame 2007.

The article says Flame 2007 requires;
– Dual processor Octane2
– V12 graphics
– 1GB RAM

Can I possibly run Flame with the following setup instead?
– Octane 2 with single core processor
– V10 Graphics
– 2 GB Ram

Here is the link to the site where I got this from.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_August_14/ai_77184207

Iam not seeking maximum functionality and speed, just simple installation and basic compositing, keying at the moment, if crucial I would upgrade and just swap out the V10 for the V12 and add another processor if possible, but for now I just need a system of my own as long as it works and starts up fine.

[cyril conforti]

Dude, if someone is selling you a turnkey Flame 2007, it for sure is NOT legal.
The cheapest way to build your own though, would be a Linux machine. I got a Flame compatible one off ebay for $350. It has no video I/O, but hey, I am just developing sparks and stuff.

@Clint Nitkiewicz Hernande 24278 wrote:

Hows it going, Iam in the market for a used flame system, I found a turnkey system for 12,000, which is not bad for flame 2007, the new linux boxes are just way out of the question though for me, I just stay at my facility to work on the 08 version.

Though I realize I could save a lot of money If I get a deal on the software and licenses, etc, by building my own box.

Are these requirements acurate I found. Let me know if this is true for the system requirements for the Irix Flame 2007.

The article says Flame 2007 requires;
– Dual processor Octane2
– V12 graphics
– 1GB RAM

Can I possibly run Flame with the following setup instead?
– Octane 2 with single core processor
– V10 Graphics
– 2 GB Ram

Here is the link to the site where I got this from.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2001_August_14/ai_77184207

Iam not seeking maximum functionality and speed, just simple installation and basic compositing, keying at the moment, if crucial I would upgrade and just swap out the V10 for the V12 and add another processor if possible, but for now I just need a system of my own as long as it works and starts up fine.

[wwatkins12]

Flame on Octane2 does not support (and will not run on) V10 graphics, it absolutely needs V12. A few other things to keep in mind:

– there is no such thing as multi-core CPUs on Octane2: it’s either a single or a dual CPU machine
– when buying a used Octane2, make sure it has the 030-1467-XXX IP30 motherboard, not the older 030-0667-XXX (‘hinv -vvm” will tell you exact revisions). The older motherboard will not run reliably with CPUs faster than 300MHz and only supports 2GB of RAM. The newer IP30s will go up to 8GB and 600MHz CPUs. Make sure the seller can provide the output of “hinv -vvm”
– You will need and want 4GB of RAM for Flame 2007, and 600MHz CPUs are strongly recommended. If the machine you are looking at doesn’t have that, eBay can be your friend for buying parts, so are the hardware forums on nekochan.net
– similarly, make sure that “hinv” reports “Heart ASIC: Revision F” and “Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.4”, both of which are required for reliable operation of V12 graphics. The power supply should be the newer, “Cherokee” power supply (060-0035-XXX).
– 2007 is the last release which supports the Octane2, so you would not be able to able to upgrade this machine to 2008
– and speaking of which, in the past at least, although you can purchase a Flame license from a third party, Autodesk has sometimes made it difficult to upgrade this license to a newer version of transfer it to a different platform. If that is important to you, you might want to talk to your local Autodesk sales person and verify what the current policy is.

[Emmanuel Akene]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=170164714955&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

K I know its missing the v12 graphics, which can easily be swapped out.
Also the cherokee power supply, can be bought and swapped out right.
The motherboard and memory?

Any other things a system like this may need?

[Kristian Egge]

Hi Clint
Are you still looking for a flame compatible octane2?
Check this out:

flame1# hinv
2 600 MHZ IP30 Processors
CPU: MIPS R14000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.4
FPU: MIPS R14010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
Main memory size: 4096 Mbytes
Xbow ASIC: Revision 1.4
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 2 Mbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive / removable media: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0: 720K/1.44M floppy
Tape drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0: DAT
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B (rev. 2), single ended
Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 1
Integral SCSI controller 2: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 2
Disk drive: unit 11 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 12 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 13 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 14 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 15 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 16 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 17 on SCSI controller 2
Disk drive: unit 18 on SCSI controller 2
Integral SCSI controller 3: Version Fibre Channel AIC-1160, revision 2
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 3 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 4 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 5 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 7 on SCSI controller 3
Disk drive: unit 8 on SCSI controller 3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: V12
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, pci 2
Gigabit Ethernet: eg0, PCI slot 2, firmware version 12.4.10
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 12.0, number 1
XT-DIGVID Multi-standard Digital Video: controller 0, unit 0, version 0x0
Dual Channel Display
Cheers

[Bobby Lapointe]

ok, this is going to be a noob question…I consider myself pretty tech savy, but i dont understand…or ever heard of octane cpu’s…Anyway, what i was wondering, why are they such low speeds (400 – 600 mhz) and yet so expensive? Anyone care to enlighten me? or at least point me in the right direction to a site that explains some of it?

[pixelmonk]

Pretty much anything to do with SGI compenents is (or used to be), seriously expensive.

[David Ellis]

i think a lot of replys from this thread are a little bite wrong but it could takes ages to mke
them true.
Just for information:
Of course that Octane2 is able to run 2007 and 2008 in good conditions.
And i’m going to be fighting if i say that but anyway, IRIX is still 100 times less bugged than a LINUX BOX 😮 and to comapare same things, a Tezro is still faster too 😀
But this is a match where only Linux win the first place because only 2009 runs on it.
So, do you think all great movies was done in the past under redhat ?? sure not…
People are always running after the last last last hardware but for what ?
ASK ILM how many Inferno and Flame they still have under Irix and Linux;)

[cyril conforti]

there is no way a Tezro is faster than a good Linux Flame. sorry bud. I just had to revisit a project I did on Linux, but this time using a Tezro flame, and it is way slower and way buggier. But its true, you can pick up a flame capable Oct. off ebay for nothing now adays. Of course, if you are spending $150K on software, why are you going to handicap it with crap hardware? Unless, your not paying for that software??? hmm….

[Anonymous]

Closing this thread…chances of this discussion being related to anything legal are pretty slim. Not that they might be, but I doubt it…..

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