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hi symek,

i can only recommend you rent a RED Rocket card somewhere and convert the files to either ProRes oder Avid DNxHD MXF´s. You will do yourself a huge favour. DO NOT try to use the quicktime ref proxies in FCP, it will not work as you think it will.

The Red Rocket will convert the footage in realtime, so the no-time argument is invalid 😉

good luck!

Timor

http://www.omstudios.de

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hi colin,

if you have a static camera you could try a combination of a difference-key with your luma.
another option is the furnace-z-buffer which can be quite helpful sometimes if you crank-up the contrast and you have moving people in the FG…

hope this helps,
timor

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Hi Maarten,

sure, i would definitely check that box.

we use pftrack where it´s possible to track only parts of a sequence with some setting and then extend the track with another setting (for example with the “zoom” option ticked).

manually matching would be done in a 3d application.
you would import your tracked parts and then manually animated the camera in the non tracked animation.

hope this helps,
timor

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@Take24studios 28013 wrote:

Hi,

The most shots I have done were just one long move. Like from a car following a straight road. Or walk through a hall way. But I want longer and more interesting shots.

For example: “An interviewer standing in front of a building. The camera is not moving. There will be an impact in the building the camera zooms in to the building, then zooms out and starts running. While he is running away from the building he turns around to film the building once again and then turns around again to keep running.

How can I do this?

Another example: “The camera is walking through a street and then takes a left turn to go in to a side street. The camera keeps walking and sometimes fliming upwards a bit (so the ground is not visible for a while).

How can I do this?

I hope you guys can help me out with this! Smile

Thanks a lot already!
Maarten

Hi Maarten,

this sounds like a fairly tricky one.
depending on the software you use, i would try to find the frames where the zooming stops and strats and try to estimate the focal lenght. i would then track the non zooming parts first (telling the software that you have a constant focal length).
after that try to extend your tracked solution into the parts with the variable zoom and give the software an “astimated focal lenth as a starting point to work with.
if you are lucky it might work out, if not…manually matching the camera in the parts that you couldn´t track.

hope this helps…
timor

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http://www.digitalanarchy.com/toonVID/main.html

works in after effects..pretty slow though.
hope this helps,
cheers

timor

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hi atahan,

you have to set your camera to “stationary” and after that go to “tracking” – “groups” and press “2” and enter…voilá!

you will get a second motion group for your object.

highlight the second motion group in the left panel, import your geometry and do your track…

hope this helps.

timor

p.s. check out fxphd´s pftrack course, it´s worth it!

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hi casey,

a nice way of working is to switch on “show only animated channels” (it´s hidden in the small little arrow on the bar that seperates the timeline from the layers). only make sure you remember having it switched on!

hope this helps with your problem, i don´t know of any shortcut that would reveal only the keyframes of the selected layer…

hope this helps,

timor

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http://www.framefixer.com

works like a charm!

cheers

timor

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hi greyj,

you have to select all keyframes and set the interpolation mode from “bezier” to “liniear”.
that should do the trick.

cheers
timor

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hi kuban,

thank you for the detailed workflow report.
nice to hear you´ve got realtime performance even with 2k and 10 bit.

i hope i got your workflow right from edius to color…
did you use a EDL? it sounded a bit like you where exporting each cut as a single picture sequence?

that´s my main worrie, i hear a lot of issues regarding the transfer from FCP to color and how it is very buggy…?(timecode errors, no multicam, etc…)

our plan was to edit on avid, transfer the timeline with automatic duck and batch in FCP (appearently FCP doesn´t like DNxHD). from FCP into color with a simplified timeline without titles, etc…

thanks again for all the valuable info,
cheers

timor

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hi kuban,

thank you for the detailed workflow report.
nice to hear you´ve got realtime performance even with 2k and 10 bit.

i hope i got your workflow right from edius to color…
did you use a EDL? it sounded a bit like you where exporting each cut as a single picture sequence?

that´s my main worrie, i hear a lot of issues regarding the transfer from FCP to color and how it is very buggy…?(timecode errors, no multicam, etc…)

our plan was to edit on avid, transfer the timeline with automatic duck and batch in FCP (appearently FCP doesn´t like DNxHD). from FCP into color with a simplified timeline without titles, etc…

thanks again for all the valuable info,
cheers

timor

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hi kuban,

thats very interesting.
unfortunately i haven´t found the time to test color but i can´t wait to get my hands on it!

just a quick question, due to the fact that the original footage was HDV did you grade in 8bit?
(but you mentioned the use of LUT´s, so probably not..?)

maybe you could elaborate a bit about your workflow, we have mainly hd-cam and hd-sr projects so i would love to hear somethink about perfomance, etc…

thanks,

timor

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hi macool,

i know this is an old thread but frantic has just relased a new plugin called AWAKE. it has a lens un/re-distort module.

http://www.franticfilms.com/software/products/awake/overview/

it has some other cool plugins like stereo-imaging, digital camera-noise, etc.

hope this helps,

timor

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hi Keyser,

i did write a reply but appearently it was killed by the forum makeover so here i comes again:

as far as i know only imagineer makes a planar tracker. funny thing is: i just checked their website and they announce a new program called mocka which is appearently “the big brother” of motor and is definitely cheaper then monet!
http://www.imagineersystems.com/products/mocha/
there is also a free beta for download, so make sure to check it out.

(in my reply i pointed out that this i NOT a 3d tracker to avoid more confusion. most people take “tracking” programs always as matchmoving software)

hope this helps, if you find any other software capable of planar tracking during your research, let me know.

timor

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hi dnr,

you probably ment: boujou or pftrack (pfhoe is the beginner software and is only $100 or so).

i really think that it´s matter of taste and what you want.

i totally love pftrack 4.0 because it´s geomoetry tracking function saved my day a couple of times and i think these guys (the pixelfarm) are a really creative bunch with a lot of good ideas (focal lenght tool, all the motion vector plugins, etc…). pftrack 4 is $ 5,500.

boujou is kind of the old master tool and most of the big hollywood studios see it as the matchmove reference (even though many companies are switching to other tools now). if you want the same functionality as pftrack you will have to buy the full package (boujou 4) which is still $ 10,000 (isn´t money always an issue?).

as rayk mentioned SynthEyes, it is a very strong software too and it´s been used by digital domain and other big companies and is only $400!(i could never really get used to the interface though).

at the end it´s really the question what you want to to, want kind of shots are you trying to tackle?even boujou has geometry tracking now, but when i tried it one day when i had access to it, it always crashed when i tried to load geometry.

have you checked realviz matchmover yet?moving pictured company used it and when i spoke to the vfx sup of troy he seemed to be very pleased with it (he said they use boujou too in their pipeline).

hope this helps, if you have any questions i´am happy to help..

timor

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