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@inch 27893 wrote:
well, from my experience, the thing with going the “APPLE” way is that
the hardware is not upgradeable like PC.
If you thinking for a long term i think PC is the best way to go,
because you can upgrade the hardware
when new motherboard,CPU,etc available. With apple, the hardware itself
is expensive, and when you want to upgrade to the next generation of hardware
you have to buy the whole new apple workstation which gonna cost you another fortune.
even when phenomenon comes out, i don’t think is going to be a real flame killer, flame
has a dedicated stone fs hardware system, that’s what makes flame a real workhorse.
and what is the current flame/inferno running on….is on PC with linux OS only =):cool:
I’m sorry to disagree, but as an user who switches daily from PC and Apple platforms in my work I have to say I will never take a PC over a Mac. Yes, Apple has been slow in terms of 64bit implementation , probably because they are more worried about the iPhone which is what is keeping the company afloat and the reason Apple is one of the very few American companies that is actually growing and the stock raising. They have to keep it up and the iPhone is what is saving them. But even so, a Mac is better designed and more stable than any PC out there and this come from a hardware/OS combination. Windows is a joke as a operating system. It was dumbed down for computer illiterate people and started it’s life already on the left foot. Vista is 64bit but can’t compare to Leopard. Linux is a good OS though but very limited on the applications side though.
The whole concept Mac’s are more expensive is just bogus and a left over from many years ago. Yes, Macs cost more than your made in Taiwan PC’s put together with the cheapest parts or than the PC you can build at home with the parts you picked up across the internet in the sale bins, but when you compare a Mac to a decent PC like a HP of the same specs their are similarly priced. The idea that you can’t upgrade a Mac is also bogus. I just got some more RAM for mine. Now you can’t or rather shouldn’t try to upgrade the processor or mobo but quite honestly once you need to upgrade a processor is probably time to buy a new machine anyways and upgrading the mobo is stupid since you will most likely have to upgrade a lot of other things with it so might as well buy a new machine. If you are a professional and use the machine to make money you shouldn’t cheap out. Also, try to sell a 2 month old PC and see how much you get, while G5’s are still selling for good money on Ebay. Why PCs hold the same value in the used marked as a banana pill while Macs have a great second hand value? Food for thought isn’t i? 🙂
I will never buy another windows laptop. I got a top of the line laptop and paid over 2 grand for it and 6 months later I couldn’t sell it for 500 bucks while a mac laptop of the same age was still going for 1,500 used. Good things cost money and you can debate forever but if they were not good they couldn’t sell them.@andy_dill 27892 wrote:
Maybe I was missing something, and that’s entirely possible, but when I was trying to get it to do basic things like curves it was failing horribly. Things I have zero trouble doing in AE, Photoshop, Combustion, Nuke and Flame were not behaving even remotely closely. It couldn’t manage to clamp blacks, the tracker wouldn’t attach to a gmask, I had almost zero success with the week I spent reading the manual and doing tutorials. Could be I’m completely wrong about Color. It’s definitely possible.
I really think you are, honestly. I have absolutely no problems in doing what you mentioned above. Specially AE, it’s a joke compared to Color in terms of color grading.
What machine are you running it on? Could be the graphics card or that you have not set your preferences right, or maybe you just don’t know how to use it. Color is very different than all other Apple pro apps. Only Shake is slightly similar since it’s also node based. But Color has a very steep learning curve and many FCP editors have a problem with it because they can’t get their heads around it and try to approach it’s tools as if they were FCP color wheels. Color is very powerful in the right hands. It’s fantastic we get it for free in FCS 2.I mean, can you elaborate on the problems you are having? Just yesterday I had a grade which had 7 powerwindows, 4 of them with tracks and I had no problems. It works like a clock.
@andy_dill 27725 wrote:
I have zero faith in Apple delivering anything qualifying as a “professional” app at this point. I’d love love to be proven wrong, but after spending some time with Color I have zero faith in their pro agenda going forward.
I don’t understand why you would say that, specially in relation to Color. It is no Da Vinci but it is definitely professional. This is the reason most FCP editors can’t handle it. Color use to be a high price stand alone application before Apple bought it. If you can’t afford Da Vinci, Pablo, or Lustre etc, there’s not much out there that can top color.
@[email protected] 25694 wrote:
Toxic is probably the best adapted for 32 bit image processing, Nuke has the best 3D forging tools…However I would argue that Shake gives the best of both and for a good price too.
How can you say Shake gives the best of both worlds when 3D is so limited in Shake? Nuke is awesome when it comes to 3D and honestly the little that Shake has doesn’t even work as it was supposed to work.