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AlanEBell wrote:

are you using a stabilize operator in you workspace? I see that operator cause black horizontal line artifacts all the time. If you are then I suggest you commit it to disk and the problem should go away.

Just a thought.

Alan Bell

No Alan, i´m not using a stabilze operator. I think it is the driver. I have to check that. Otherwise I have to downgrade to 32bit windows i guess or get a quadro.

Thx Nanuk

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blumediaprojekt wrote:

anyone here running one of these?

If so, how do you like?

I heard, that the jaleoguys or some of them are behind it. I think it is layerbased, but i´m not sure. And the different systems have funny names. Rederfarm is Totem, and a tool is called Thor and Zeus. All apps are name after some godheads.

Nanuk

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thank you for your reply esteban. this was my thought too. but i also thought, that it might be a problem of the 64 bit version of windows and the driver or both. the driver is the latest you can get from nvidia.
It is a cool machine, thanx for that. 😀 And perhaps i will upgrade to quadro 4500. it´s all about the money! 😉

nanuk

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I an few days I will get a beta of toxik 2007. and I will also have a project, which i will tackle or try to 😉 tackle with toxik. Hopefully then many questions will be answered.

Nanuk

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And an another cool thing is, that the master keyer is a “super tool”. They kind of put the master keyer in a “modular keyer”. After the keyer you have other tools like edge and so one. And you cann add tools to the super tool. As many as you want.

Nanuk

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I also use FFI and there you can`t really customize your GUI. But i think there is no need to. It is pretty cool though. In C* I saw many different screensetups. I guess overbody has to find his own.

Nanuk

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Light wrote:

You mean expand timeline command? Normally it expands it horizontally by moving a few buttons to the bottom. But when you float the toolbar on the left, it doesnt, resize it’s size which I think how it should behave.

Thanks,
Light

No, not the timeline. I mean the workspace. You can expand the timeline by pressing F11. The best way to go with combustion in my oppinion is to have 2 displays. Then xou can put the timeline on one screen and the viewer on the other. With that you stay master of your composite even with a multipass rendering from 3d.

nanuk

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i think by pressing shift f10 you can get the workspace to left of your screen. and there you have more space.

nanuk

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Light wrote:

I am actually a 3d animator and recently tried c4 a shot and loved it. I think it is a nice app. I am not a compositor but I can see some of the true power of rendering stuff in layers and then bring them all together with a compositing app. So I would like to learn this app.

Well about the questions, I just wondered, as I currently have no way of accessing one of these.

Last question though, if fire is discreet’s greatest nle app, how can it be compared to final cut pro, avid?

Thanks again,
Light

you can´t really. I worked with fire and it really kicks ass. to compare avid with fire you have to take a nitris. because this app has also the combination of editing and compositing. it is also a finishing tool as loops said. you can “compose” with final cut, but very roughly. a good thing is the interactivity with shake and motion. if you got everything on one machine it is pretty cool. but no comparison to a fire!

hope you got an overview.

nanuk

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loops wrote:

Hehe, oops, nanuk beat me to it 🙂

sorry for that loops. 😀 but you got a lot of info light.

nanuk

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Light wrote:

Thanks nanuk for replying.

While I am at it, I want to ask a few more questions if you don’t mind.

1. Is combustion a layer based app or a node based? flame/inferno?

2. Seeing there are alot of trackers out there, like boujou, mofex, etc and assuming that the trackers in combustion and flame/inferno is the same, whats the difference? It looks to me that the first two apps only do tracking and have alot of tools while discreet tracker has all the tools in a small panel?

3. Considering combustion’s superior brothers are ffi, can one assume that eventually combustion will get their legacy one by one?

Thanks again,
Light

1. combustion is both and so are FFI. In c* you switch between layerview and schematicview. In FFI you have your Action what can be compaired to layer and you have batch which is more nodebased.

2. tracking is an own chapter. the discreet tracker is very good and it is the same in c* and FFI. Boujou is a 3d tracker and mofex is a plugin for shake with contains a 2.5d tracker. both are very good. FFI also has a 3d tracker in it but in my oppinion it isn´t very good or better very handy.

3. some operators are the same like cc, tracking etc. But there will always be differences between the systems and the desktoptools. 😀 It is also a marketing thing 😉

4. Fire is also an nle. the bigger brother of smoke and you can do more complex cc in lustre. and you can grade in realtime and many other things.

and now i got a question! what is your profession or position?

nanuk

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tomas wrote:

Hi,

It is a very good editing software that runs in NT. I saw it in LA last September in a few post houses and they used to conform 2K and HD data. Also it has great color correction and keying tools. In some places they even used to color correct more than the Lustre because it is easyier to exchange material with other plattforms. I is 10 bits, 4:4:4.

bye,
tomas

thanx for reply! do you know how much it costs?

nanuk

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Light wrote:

Thanks all for replying.

Loops, can you please tell me more info about the desktop reels? Also is smoke a nle software?

AD looks interesting too.

Thanks again,
Light

Smoke is an nle. but also with an dve.
In Flame you have a desktop, where your clips are located. You can edit them on that desktop. Not like in a nle but it works for most of the time. Smoke and Flame are both discreet systems. Means big guns = big bucks. 😀

I´m not loops, but i hope i can help.

nanuk

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loops wrote:

Flame has better editing in the Batch timelines than Combustion has with its Edit operator, you get basically a cut down mini Smoke, with one video track and two audio tracks. And Flame also has the desktop reels, which are great for quickly chopping things apart.

I’d prefer Final Cut Pro myself but with the Automatic Duck convertor thingy (http://www.automaticduck.com/products/picmb/) you can take FCP, Avid or Premiere timelines into Combustion.

automatic duck rocks! and with that tool you are free in choosing your nle. as loops said, it will transfer from avid, fcp and premiere. it also transfers some effects your cutter did like picture in picture, scales moves and some other stuff. but read thrue the link above.

greetz nanuk

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FFI, Fire, Smoke and Combustion all use the same Tracker. I´m not sure about Toxik, but as Johnmont said it is also the same. I think the discreet tracker is cool, but I did a lot of tracking in shake and this tracker is very good. And if you have done some tracking jobs with monet or mofex you know how a tracker should work. Hopefully I have the chance to test the new version of Toxik in a few days. Perhaps then I can say something more about the tracker in Toxik.

Nanuk

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