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paul_round wrote:I also agree that there are too many good tools in Inferno to not try and put them in V1, I could live without paint, but not without a decent keyer.
I’m so with you on the tools…Autodesk has a ton of robust tools in-house and i really hope we’ll see them ported to Toxik sooner rather than later. The database and collaboration is a solid foundation upon which to build — but tools are what artists need in the end. Without them…well…..
Toxik 1.1 was being shown at siggraph with OFX support and test versions of plugins from The Foundry were demoed. So at least there will be some third party regrain/degrain tools available as well as Keylight. I actually think the Foundry regrain tools are great, as the Autodesk ones in flame/inferno are showing their age….though they’re admittedly technologcially different beasts.
I think the database/collaboration structure will take a bit of time to catch on and I hope it does. I think there is a ton to be gained by working in this manner. Yes, people will have to change their ways at least in some ways. I remember days when commercial effects editors said they could never work on a system that renders…just takes too long, etc. 😉 Facilities and users will have no trouble changing in the long run if the benefits of doing so are there.
Autodesk also maintains that a standalone version of Toxik *will* be available. I’m not sure if this is an install with an integrated database or an app which doesn’t rely on the database. I’m also unsure of a target date for release. Sorry…more questions than answers I guess.
I think a timeline with some editing features is also very important
I have to agree to my precursors, by the way, I´ve talked to my distributors for AME about Toxik and that I´d like to go with it and they suggested me to go with Flame or Flint instead ( ? ). I can only assume that there are too many “under construction”- sites inside of Toxik.
For me it´s quite annoying that Toxik will be a “collaborative” system in it´s initial state – I´d also like to see a standalone system first ( why didn´t they do that anyway ? Release something that works alone and finalize the collaboration system in parallel ) but now, after so many years of development ( and no-development ) and rumors there´s only a basic structure that´s missing lots of important tools. Some people will say that AME has to build things from scratch because it´s something totally new – but I fear that it will be a long, painful way until it turns into a mature system.
I’d give toxik a year before we se it as a really serious contender. I do believe that despite my misgivings and everyone elses the foundation is there for a fast and intuitive program that could be far more efficient than shake… especially on large projects.
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